Are You An Undervalued Stay At Home Parent? Debrief Here!

  • Posted on Wednesday, 07 November 2012
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  • Are You An Undervalued Stay At Home Parent? Debrief Here!

    Shaun-UndervaluingOn Tuesday Reservoir Mum, the boys and I had a great time at Bianca and Shaun’s (relatives of ours) renowned ‘Melbourne Cup Day Party’. There was lots of dancing and drinking and gambling - a real family affair.

    As the day drew to a close, and I was preparing to tear up the dance floor ‘Gangnam Style’ I made mention of the fact that I was feeling a tad tipsy.

    Shaun (pictured left) responded with, ‘Mate! If I was staying at home I’d be drinking every day.’

    While that line could be read to imply that he would need intoxicants to cope with the pressures of the role, his enthusiastic tone made it clear that he was insinutating that being a stay at home parent would give him ample time to indulge in life’s pleasures.

    I know Shaun well enough to concede that he may have been ribbing me a tad – he’s a hands-on Dad to two young girls and knows running a house and raising kids is a tough gig – and I'm even prepared to imagine that his thinking was being compromised by some hidden illness I wasn’t aware of, like haemorrhoids for example, or short vision.

    Still, it flattened me a bit.

    My next rendition of Gangnam Style was done without its usual head-turning flair and I disappeared into the realm of the average – just another bogan gyrating lewedly on the dance floor.

    Two years ago, I wrote an article for Nicole Avery’s website Planning With Kids titled 10 Things I’ve Learnt As A Stay At Home Dad. I made mention of how undervalued the stay at home role is. Here’s the full rant -

     

    2. The stay-at-home role is undervalued

    Putting aside the fact that we are responsible for tiny humans and their developing lives, there is just a lot of hard work that comes with child-rearing on the domestic frontline and it is very rarely congratulated or celebrated. Whenever a stay-at-home parent takes the time to ‘debrief’ with regular nine-to-fivers they are often labeled as ‘wingers’, or ‘naggers’ rather than people who are simply looking for some understanding and acknowledgement of their efforts. Most employees understand that this sort of basic feedback is necessary to maintain employer self-esteem, morale and work ethic. For some reason society doesn’t extend this privilege to stay-at-home mums and dads. (Read the full article here)

     

    too-soberWhile I’m prepared to let Shaun off the hook on this occassion (his wife Bianca wouldn’t let me shame him like I wanted to), I've heard many similar comments over the years, and many with true venom. There is no question the role is still undervalued by many.

    Yesterday I took to the Reservoir Dad Facebook page and asked people to share any similar comments they’d received over the years. The response was so overwhelming (I’m still overflowing with whelm) that I've decided to offer a debriefing session every Monday.

    If you feel you need to vent about a tough day, or hour, or situation, or particularly draining child behaviour etc, just head on over to the Facebook Page every Monday morning, find the status update titled RD's Stay At Home Parents Debriefing Session and let her rip, knowing that you are unloading on people who understand. No need to qualify your rants with 'but I love my children...' or 'but I wouldn't change it for anything...'. Just have at it! First, like the Facebook Page by clicking the Like button here -

     

    To kick it off I've attached some of the comments from yesterday's status update. Feel free to add your experiences in the comments section below. I'm dedicating this page to Shaun. (And because I'm such a nice guy, who's easily influenced by direct threats, I'll let Bianca and Shaun get the final words in with the two last comments.) 

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    i've been asked what i do all day lol well there's housework, washing, nappies, sibling fights to referee, mess to clean, discipline to serve out just to name a few and today i shall be drinking mister bigmouth wine lmfao… oh and decide what to cook for dinner and then try to cook it without totally destroying it whilst breaking up the fighting of a 2 and 3 year old lmao - Catherine Franziska Keevers

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    I had a neighbour who used to constantly tell me how much he would love to bludge of his other half like I did. Another told me he would never allow his wife to sit on her arse all day watching the soapies. I had 3 under 3, including 1 with autism who did not sleep and hubby in the military so away a lot. I would much prefer to work a full time job - Jacqui Ross

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    My Fav was a mate who said that when his baby is born he's gonna be a stay at home dad playing Playstation all day.......
    I laughed & replied that he'd be lucky if he could go to the toilet without being interrupted or have an audience - Penni Perrin

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    I only stay home three or four days a week and it's tough! Don't know how my partner survived and got everything done while she was off with the kids prior to going back to work... - Chris Bristow

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    Yep, a couple of weeks ago I had three ladies in ONE day tell me that it must get a little boring and "what do you do all day"? One was a stranger, one was another mum and one was a lady I spoke to enquiring about their pre-prep program. She was the third. Lucky she was on the phone or I may have slapped her! - Taran Tate

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    My three days a week in the office are my 'rest days' - Nicola Jones Lumby

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    I often get "do you work or just stay home with the kids?" Even though I do also work from home building up our business, looking after my 4 boys (oldest turned 5 end of June and will be starting school next year, the youngest will be 11 months this month) is the hardest I've ever had in my life! I would LOVE to have my morning coffee hot for a change lol Some people just don't get how hard raising kids is! - Anna Mann

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    I once got " so exactly what do you do all day" I had 3 under 4 at the time. So really not that much :p I mean after Oprah and dr phil and chatting with my girlfriends I was so exhausted ( rolls eyes) - Kerry Anderson

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    I have two boys, 3 +5 and there are days when I knock back a drink during bastard hour (as it is known in our house) as by that time it is truly all too much. Having said that, I work two days a week which I consider a break from my real job. Not sure I have the energy to be a full-time stay at home mum. I raise a glass to you all. Dads included. A bit later though as it is way too early for vodka. Shame really. Who made that rule anyway? - Claudine Berrisford

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    I am a full time headteacher looking after 200+ kids, managing 30+ staff members, working a 60+ hour a week job. I have a 3 year old and 2 teenage stepkids... I go to work for a break. Staying at home all week is hard and draining. Plus, nobody at work wants to sit on my lap when I go to the loo. - Jane Astrid Devane

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    same old argument isn't it? I constantly have baby on one arm, wine on the other (cask that is). What of it? Do I complain at those who clock in to work each day and all they do is paint their nails and sit on Facebook and Twitter? A week in my shoes people!! A week!!! Sure my hubby says he could do what i do hands down - as apparentely chucking a load in the machine and hanging it out doesn't take all day(apparentely water takes toddler stains straight out), it's the other crap he wouldn't do ie; networking with other mums, taking kids to playgroup, taking kids to activities, kids parties, helping out at school, etc, etc, etc. And why is it sitting down for an hour whilst enjoying the luxury of what, say LUNCH is classed as bludging, but camping outside school for an hour on the iPad to ensure a park where my kids need not jaywalk is acceptable. What's the difference?? I'm still sitting my arse doing jack. Needless to say I laugh at these comments and give judgers what they choose to hear, as defending my role falls on deaf ears and is draining. - Michelle Toms

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    "Why take care of your kids? You should focus on your career. You can always spend time with them when you retire." - Colin Wee

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    In Hong Kong, it's all about what you do. In any new encounter, the first or second question will always be, "So, what do you do?" "I look after our daughter." "So, you don't work?" "Oh yes, I work, I just don't get paid a regular salary for it. Unless you count kisses and cuddles and life changing moments. In which case, I get paid in abundance!" - Diana Pizzari

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    I've been asked a number of times since being a SAHD how do I like the break, or must be hard getting coffee and going to playgroup every week. But I just say actually well I now know how hard my wife had to work for the last 18mths plus - Simon Gandolfo

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    At a party a man who knew my husband but not me asked me what my career was. Not 'what do you do?', but 'what is your career?'. When I said I was at home with my children, he responded, 'yes, my wife did that too. She stayed home for 6 weeks after our daughter was born before returning to her career as a lawyer'. Right-e-o then. - Susan Whelan

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    I liked the woman in the paper who demonstrated what she did all day,)_ by stopping doing it_. When there were no clean clothes and no shopping in the fridge, the household pretty quickly wised up. - Yolande Yolande

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    Can I just say in defence of this said relo Shaun (who happens to be my husband) that although at times some things that come out of his mouth he has not yet contemplated they way they might sound, he is in fact a wonderful father and also a stay-at-home dad every Saturday when I head off to work for the day, and although the house may not look fantastic he manages to take two children to swimming lessons (right at lunch time) get all the washing done as well as have dinner cooked (often for the neighbours as well)! I also recall asking why he hadn't got something done and his response was... " Do you know how hard it is to get the girls into the car and off to swimming when they're starving......etc". !!! Yes darling I do!!! - Bianca Kerr

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    Relax people. Go and have a drink. I am - Shaun Kerr

    Comments (16)

    • Salz

      Salz

      07 November 2012 at 23:10 |
      That video is just so true. You want to sit down at the end of the day and they all jump on you.
      My husband has just really started to take on what I have been saying about what I do all day. Yesterday was the last straw with kids screaming at me left right, centre and from behind I said stuff this I am going to this bloggers brunch cause I deserve it. A couple of hours with no kids.
      When he is at home with the kids for a couple of hours he thinks they are so easy. I would gladly swap the stay at home parent role for the work 8hrs a day role.
    • Alisha Luxford

      Alisha Luxford

      07 November 2012 at 23:36 |
      I've had a friend of mine, who is also a SAHM say to me "are you a board housewife, I notice you're spending some time on your blog?". The tone of voice she used was so critical!

      I have four kids under four, how can I possibly be board? I choose to spend the bit of "me time" I get of an evening blogging about what projects we've done, or things that have happened, and I get criticised for it.
    • Mrs Woog

      Mrs Woog

      08 November 2012 at 00:20 |
      I think you are onto something here xx
    • Lily Mae

      Lily Mae

      08 November 2012 at 00:38 |
      I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN!!

      But yes, you're onto something.

      It's not only shit things that are said, it's attitude, pressure, judgement, expectations. Sometimes I feel so alone I just shut down, withdraw. Cry in a corner.

      What gets me the most is when it comes from people who have had children.. But they are either older kids than mine or they didn't stay at home as long as I have with mine.. When they say thoughtless things to me I feel speechless.
    • easypeasykids

      easypeasykids

      08 November 2012 at 01:31 |
      Working with children at schools, working with children and their parents, having my own kids I hear you loud and clear, hope to see you dancing soon :)
    • Stay at home yummy mummy!

      Stay at home yummy mummy!

      08 November 2012 at 01:42 |
      You are a legend! MY partner is my biggest enemy! If I have to hear once more about how centrelink pays me to sit on my ass all day long..... I may just do that!!!! He works 15 hour days as a welder, but I am looking forward to the xmas break when he has 4 weeks off and I "mysteriously dissapear" for a week! I only have a 6 month old a 3 year old and a 5 year old, such a whinger i know! LOL
    • Rebecca Kingsberry

      Rebecca Kingsberry

      08 November 2012 at 01:48 |
      THANK YOU for all of these posts. I only have one child so far but at the end of each day I feel more exhausted - physically, mentally and emotionally than I ever did when I worked full time. My full credit to those SAHP with more kids. It is extremely frustrating when people judge and criticize, especially those that have been SAHP themselves (not sure what they actually did with their kids or what their kids did (sit quietly in a corner and entertain themselves all day??)). Ditto Lily Mae. But as I was told last week, I have it easy and live a life of leisure, taking my energetic toddler son to swimming lessons, music class, the library, parks, playgroup, doing crafts, reading books etc are all enjoyable activities, not work. Yes, I enjoy it, but I'm certainly not sitting on my backside in front of a computer or TV all day. And the washing, cooking, tidying etc don't do themselves either.
      • Alisha Luxford

        Alisha Luxford

        08 November 2012 at 05:42 |
        "Only one child" is still exhausting! Children, whether one or ten, take all your energy to be the best parent you can be!

        I remember when I had "Only" one, and he still got as much attention and activities as the four of our kids combined. We actually do a bit less since having kids, and my "clean" standards have dropped somewhat!

        I think I felt more tired (mentally and physically) when we had "only" one.

        You're doing a great job, and you'll have a lovely young man to prove it! *hugs*
    • Mumintheburbs

      Mumintheburbs

      08 November 2012 at 06:11 |
      I hate when the person who just asked "what do you do all day?" doesn't stick around to hear the answer. Like it is too boring and tedious to even hear about. Or when my DH hangs up on me because he can't stand the kids screaming in the background. Try being in the same room as it, buddy.
    • Evil Genius Mum

      Evil Genius Mum

      08 November 2012 at 12:31 |
      "So, what do you do?"
      "I'm an evil genius. Well, Evil Genius Mum."
      "Oh. Right. okay."

      Why do you think I started my Evil Genius Mum blog? At least now, when the kids are unwashed, the house unkempt, and the husband...well, you get the point. Then people just ask "What experiment did you do this time?" HAHAHA!! Stops them from asking questions they don't really want answered, and stops me from slapping them for asking.
    • Rachel @ The Kids Are All Right

      Rachel @ The Kids Are All Right

      08 November 2012 at 22:22 |
      I know it is different for everyone, but to me, there is nothing harder than being a stay at home mum. I make sure I work now, so I can outsource some of the bits I found the hardest. I think you will have no shortage of offloading !
    • Kelly HTandT

      Kelly HTandT

      09 November 2012 at 00:31 |
      I love the comment about stopping what you do all day to prove what you do all day. I always threaten it, but I just can't. I'm too... OCD... I would go crazy in an untidy house. Mess = stress!
    • EssentiallyJess

      EssentiallyJess

      09 November 2012 at 21:35 |
      Anyone who doesn't understand how hard it is, has never had to feign interest in a small child's constant chatter from the moment they wake up to the moment they go to sleep. That alone is enough to drive a person crazy
    • Karen

      Karen

      10 November 2012 at 01:29 |
      I'm a relatively new SAHM (15 months and counting now), and luckily I haven't had any of these comments thrown at me yet, but my Mum has always been a SAHM raising 4 kids, and I remember hearing people say stuff to her all the time, that Woman NEVER sits still, but because of her example and support I don't think anything anyone would say to me would phase me!
    • Kim@FallingFaceFirst

      Kim@FallingFaceFirst

      20 November 2012 at 01:22 |
      I'm DYING to find some part-time work so I can have a break. The worst part of being this emotional wunderkind all day to my 3 and 5-year-old girls (MY GOD can they talk) is that I'm then supposed to be the LISTENER at the end of the day, like I don't have any dumping to do! It's enough to drive me to blog and drink.
    • Sarah

      Sarah

      17 December 2012 at 03:51 |
      Ok so I've never vented publicly before and I'm not really comfertable doing it via facebook for everyone to see! I caught my 4 year olds gastro Saturday night ending all plans for the 2 year olds Birthday today. I spent all yesterday in bed and whilst my husband looked after the kids, housework is not part of his vocabulary. So this morning (after the present opening) I have caught up on 3 days of dishwashing, general clearing and clothes washing. I have just finished the last load of washing to find the 2 year old put a disposable nappy in with the clothes. Argh!

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